Alice in Portaland feedback and suggestion thread

Aqua

This instance has such a bad design, I'm sorry for the people who designed it but that's how it is. It feels like an individual instance until the MVP room (which is really just a DPS statcheck). Before the MVP room I don't even see like half of my party, it DOES NOT feel like a party instance at all.

There are a lot of issues with this instance. If not for the crazy amount of zeny I can generate from farming the instance daily I would never touch this instance, at all. As compared to other servers I've played in (Nova) I would still keep doing instances regardless of the zeny I could generate at the end of the run, as long as I had fun playing with my friends or even with random players.

Which is another issue for this instance. Considering that this instance has a lot of things that can go wrong with an unorganized party, it's very exclusive for only a small group of players. I could never see myself recruiting a random player for this instance unless I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY desperate. I understand the importance of having an organized party but this just feels extreme, having a 1-day CD isn't helping either. Once you F up the run, you won't have another chance until the next reset OR unless you have multiple characters.

Which brings me to my other suggestion, custom instances should have no CD, people should be able to run it as much as they want/can without worrying about the CD if they fail or F up the run. This would also remove the exclusivity of organizing parties for this and future custom instances.

Meer

Aqua

Which brings me to my other suggestion, custom instances should have no CD, people should be able to run it as much as they want/can without worrying about the CD if they fail or F up the run. This would also remove the exclusivity of organizing parties for this and future custom instances.

I'm not really a PvM master, but I can give a really good solution for this, as this is how top tier MMORPG like Final Fantasy XIV deals with this. Basically the end game contents in FFXIV doesn't have cooldown. You can go inside the party million times a day, but the rewards, can only be taken 1x weekly (on the real top tier content), but they later unlock this reward as the content being obsolete (after 3 to 6 months).

By doing this they unlock:

Ability for the players to "progress" the fight. A.k.a testing roster out, checking if healing is okay here and there, testing out the DPS, etc etc.
Still rewarding the playerbase if they "cleared" the fight, but can still help out friends who want to "progress" the fight, without losing the chance of getting reward.

But yea just my two cents, I rarely play PvM anymore in MuhRO either way 👀

Choi

Meer I like this idea too, and like Aqua mentioned it should be daily. I think the only issue is that the mobs in the map drop important loot as well, so someone can repetitively fail the instance to farm the loots. I don't really know if or think that's necessarily a bad thing though. And the players will get to retry the instance multiple times but only get the monster stone/heavy chain once per day.

Aqua

You can go inside the party million times a day, but the rewards, can only be taken 1x weekly (on the real top tier content)

This actually doesn't sound like a bad idea, I like it. But maybe not weekly, make it daily instead. This way people could still commit multiple characters for these custom instances but at least this way people could still help others without risking their own CD for the instance.

Muh

Just a headsup note, we will look into the RNG in first area.

(this is not a statement regarding anything else in this thread)

StellarFlare

Can you also stop limiting movement speed please?

Aqua

StellarFlare This, please... If movement skills are enabled, why do other jobs have to suffer with the MS penalty 🙁

Sagii

Bumping this up.

I run Alice Normal earlier, and was wandering in first map for the whole 25 minutes with several mazes.

I don't think someone likes to walk around and waste their time.

I know it is just a bad RNG, but it leads to not completing the instance.

I don't know if it is intended though.

Muh

There will be changes _feel free to suggest new ideas after the patch if it's not to your liking

CongaLyne

Something else I want to bump with this that isn't necessarily strict to Alice but doesn't warrant it's own thread either, but I do want to see more party focused content in the server, even if it's earlygame for newer players to have something to party up with.

I want to see more party content in general, since currently the game largely feels like a single player dungeon grinder which happens to have multiplayer aspects integrated.
You can encounter other people while farming dungeons, but due to the NoKS system it's detrimental to go near them and encourages people to stay away from interacting with each other.

I know they'll likely take a while to make, but I do really want to see a lot more party instances in the future like Alice where people are encouraged to play with together.

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