The problem with bloody branch "BB" and Blacksmith's Blessing "BSB"

zelth16

Comparing with the official one without its variables is very risky, it is a world with its rates, prices, donations, etc., the ecosystem is very different. It's just not comparable.
It is not my goal to believe that what is presented here is the best, I already think that it would be better to adjust the rest of the content to make it more attractive. Like many other threads have talked about instance coins and their exchange, the shortage of zelunium in other maps... etc.
I do not fervently believe that eliminating the BB from the drop is the solution, but I do believe that leaving things as they are is negative in the medium/long term.

PS: price control is never good.

pipi

It is about the same here, there is donation as well but not for equipment / shadow gear like in official but to buy utility, costume and much more. Wdym by “very risky” here? Most of the item we had here always based on official except costumes / fashion item.

I already think that it would be better to adjust the rest of the content to make it more attractive. Like many other threads have talked about instance coins and their exchange, the shortage of zelunium in other maps... etc.

Then you should make suggestion about increasing incentive for other maps or new content?

zelth16

I do not fervently believe that eliminating the BB from the drop is the solution, but I do believe that leaving things as they are is negative in the medium/long term.

This is not something you can change easily, you can imagine how much mvp cards one player hold by now (maybe hundreds at most for mvp farmer).

By the time they change it to your ideas, these mvp farmers no need to farm until this server close. They only had to farm new gear content / sell all the mvps they had.

Because since the start of the server this is their own personal branding with BB and dual client.

zelth16

PS: price control is never good.

Imagine there is no npc to standardized price for BSB, price will fluctuate more than 6-8m 🙂. Could be until 20m / BSB lol

EvilLumi

zelth16 Just the P.S. Price control IS good, because it prevents people from escalating a market price for something that nobody would agree with. This is good, but unfortunately, doesn't prevent idiots from selling BSB at 9m, which to this day is an intentional scam price.

Stepbro

Honestly, without BB farm, i wouldve left the server a long time ago. Its a means to finally fulfill my fantasy of farming for my own mvp cards. Its a bit tedious for sure, but ultimately its the end game grind for that sweet mvp card drop that keeps me going.

I would always 100% choose this tedious grinding over fighting for mvps on normal maps with insane respawn timers and making 20+ alt accounts just to farm instance bosses.

I am in no rush, so farming BBs and converting garbage cards for a chance to get a good instance card is good enough to get me going.

Although additional map farm for bbs and zelus etel dust and shadowdecons would be nice for a change of scenery, which is why im an advocate of buffing mjol underground.

I never see it as a problem tbh. As it is what keeps the economy going. Newbies can farm niff2, sell to end game users, and end game users who can farm depths2 solo can sell to those newbies.

coffee

Stepbro This was certainly the best reasoning for this suggestion. Congratulations.

gargoyles0390

Limit 100 BB / Day. So everyone can get MVP card without compete with person who spam BB million per day.

MadMonkey

zelth16 I 'd have agreed but, as others already said:

EvilLumi This is an item that should not have been droppable since day 1

Now that everyone and their grandmothers have been benefitting from it for years, it is far too late to do that.

It sucks.
It sucks massive ass even.
But it is what it is sadly.

As for the BSBs "situation", I wouldn't mind another source for it but it isn't really needed imo.
There are always enough available for anyone's needs.
I also don't believe putting them on a npc was a mistake either.
It allows for their price to normalize itself instead of letting it skyrocket (or plummet) because of a highly volatile and unchecked market (like say, Nova's).
Which could, as a result, affect gears' prices and contribute to an inflated economy.
We don't need that.

lakadema

How about this then: completely remove BB.

But lower the exchange rate from main base (it's 20 shadows per bb, lower it to lets say 5-8). One full round of bg with full drop rate gear (kinda) in Niff will net you roughly 150+ shadowdecons, you are getting more bb’s than casual farmer with the new exchange but less than really hardcore no lifers.

It will still make bb accessible but will also put an stop to its massive influx since it will cut down the amount, also encouraging people to go to other maps like niff 1, amticia 1/2, ctb, thana 11/12, etc.

Can also increase shadowdecons/zelu drop rate from these places or make them drop more often from Varmundt biospheres (excellent farming places and make them relevant even after HOL patch comes in), etc.

kaiakaito

Moving it to rejected
There is no reason to remove BB's and Bsb are fine at it is.

coffee

zelth16 Sorry friend. Your suggestion is selfish and ridiculous. Thanks to the branches I was able to build all my gears.