Lack of End Game tier farming spots

hoegenaamd

Title: [Buffing profitability of D1 and Mjol maps]

Description:
After meta changed from depth armor to HoL and nebula set, D1 farming is not profitable anymore, adding the fact that it was never the prime farming map profitability speaking. People only do it for D2 access and subsequently for TDRC craft + enchanting.

After nif2 weapon box implementation, mjol BB farming has been sort of neglected because of its lesser profitability. I think buffing this mjol map will provide more BB farming maps will help cooling down the currently inflationary economy by allowing more supply of BB to reach the market.

Practically, the implementation might be, but not limited to, and either or all:

put/more zelu + shadowdecon on D1/mjol maps
Nerf nif2 naked cash (from npc)
Adjust the mobs zeny (zeny bounty from each killings) of all these maps

Why is this a good idea?
This D1 map is definitely end game tier on par with D2 (while FT 1&2 and yorscalp sanctuary 2 nightmare mode came close), which is also rare as a field map (in contrast to end game instances which we have plethora of). On the other hand I believe current prime farming spots are limited to: nif2, biotemple, and biovenom. Also that Mjol BB farming has been outclassed by nif2 since the weapon box implementation, while it is essentially a harder map. in principle harder farming designated maps should likely to be more profitable than easier ones.

I believe buffing mjol and D1 profitability will provide end game players with alternative farming spots Instead of making them compete with newbies in a crowded map (currently most provitable map is nif2 which is farmable with late- middle game gears). Also that I believe making middle game progression map the most profitable map is not a good game design. Something has to change.

The alternative is to nerf nif2 profitability (naked cash speaking) because I suspected(no proof tho) the npc zeny (naked cash) from the farming is flooding the economy too much.

What risks or downsides does it have?
Nif2 farmer will riot idk

Additional Info:
Trust me bro

Mysto

While its true that D1 has fallen behind in terms of profitability, I’ve never seen it as a profitable map even before the HoL meta shift, nevertheless i would love to see some improvement or other appeal than just helping newcomers to rep grind it or level up faster.

Regarding Nif2 being considered the best farming spot, i dont entirely agree, Its definitely the easiest and most accessible option for raw zeny, but there are several other spots where you can farm significantly more zeny if you're properly geared & open to sell the drops.

As for Mjol, I believe its currently underrated by players, considering the drop gear we have now (+42/44 %) and the gear requirements to farm it many overlook it and just go straight to Nif2 without trying it. I personally farm there regularly and in 30 minute sessions (with normal bbg) you can get around 60 to 70 Bloody Branches, nearly 300 zeluniums, and roughly 16/18 million zeny (raw). In my opinion, this map is in a good state as it is, even after the bloody branch drop rate nerf that happened a year ago.

My currently field farming spots: z1/z2, yor2, mjo, venom, temple, soul & d2

hoegenaamd

Mysto

I don't know how you farm 70 BB/30 min with normal bbg and how you define your average yield. My average is 40-60 BB/30 minutes with HE bubblegum of which is closer with what yield average people reports when farming there.

But even if what you're saying is true, the mjol map is not full with farmers (while at the same time nif2 is fully congested), of which that fact alone should tell us something.

danieltran88

+1 from me.

And I want Forgotten Dungeons get buff too

for example: adding more daily rewards

hoegenaamd

danieltran88 I agree and id double down even: imo forgotten dungeons should be buffed both its yield (zeny per hour) and its difficulty (like maybe the mobs will cast some spells or something making it more challenging as a farming map)

shuuya

Yeah this would be great, The yields I get in nif2 is way more compared to BioB even if it is crowded. I feel bad for newbies farming there when I go back to farm there and also see SA eating everything up. Buffing up CTB and Power Plains would be great too to spread them out.

Akin

For D1, imo no need to make it a prime farming spot since it has outlived its usefulness after the D1 armor set becomes outclassed. As more dungeons will be added replacing the current ones once newer content arrives, this is just the natural cycle of farming spots. Some like D2 just last longer cause of.. Gravity. With exception of nif2 and bioB due to BB/zelu/shadow perpetually be in demand.

For Mjol, why not just increase the BB yield with something like adding a 2nd or even a 3rd BB drop with increasingly lower chances.

P.S. Please add the 3 new dungeons 🙏🏻