Change mechanics of the Village of Deception instance

coffee

Hello MUH RO team.

I really like to do instances to get cards and enjoy the game my way.

I can't do this instance without having a duo or another player to open the portal simultaneously.I would really like this to be changed and I can open the door alone without needing to log in as a duo or have help from another teammate.

Just change the first step of the instance and everything looks great.

jinbou

If this was an actual "group content" that people can enjoy together, like Alice or CT, then I would be opposed to this suggestion.

But that's not the case, at this point its just an outdated instance where the basic instance rewards are completely useless. It's not like other group contents like Alice/CT etc where everyone earns a good reward for participating. The only valuable reward from this instance is the MVP card, which is not a good motivator for recruiting a party at all: Why would anyone want to make parties when the only possible reward is a card that they can't share? Obviously everyone prefers dual clienting to join so that they'll actually have the card to themselves, and have 2x more chance of obtaining it.

I'm against gameplay mechanics giving an advantage to multi-client over single-client, or forcing people to multic-client, so obviously I hate the current implementation of this instance as well. Hell, either make it actually require 2 unique master accounts, or allow us to join it alone, anything is better than the current implementation.

Pipo

Totally against. This is an MMO game, there will always be a partner for this dungeon, if you don't want to share the loot, make a second window. The game is sharpened for multi-windows. Justify, this is "old" content, lmao, so let's immediately give out bosses at the entrance to all old dungeons. Everyone plays / farms in multi-windows and only for some reason this dungeon touched topicstarter. I have seen a lot of whining on the forum, this is one of its highest forms.

coffee

Pipo By the way, you shouldn't even do this...you're going against a suggestion that you don't even really care about.

jinbou

Pipo

So you're saying "It's an MMO game!" as reasoning to oppose the suggestion, and proceeding to recommend opening a second client and solo clearing the instance? I'm sorry but multiclienting is still playing a solo game, you're not doing anything MMO-like. If you actually cared about the MMO aspect or the party content you'd suggest limiting the instance to 2+ unique master accounts, your argument is nothing but disingenuous.

I'm fine with it either way btw:

You want it to be a party content? Make it a requirement to bring at least 2 master accounts, and buff the dungeon rewards to compensate for that, including the card drop rate. That way people will actually make parties for it.
Or accept the fact that its an instance for solo players at this point and remove the 2 client requirement.

Shoving multiclient requirement down the throat of players is the worst option. The current requirement of "2+ game accounts" doesn't serve any purpose, it doesn't promote party play, it only promotes multiclienting. And sure multiclienting should be allowed but it doesn't need promoting. No content in this game should have a requirement like that, it makes no sense whatsoever.

MadMonkey

Kinda agree with Pipo but without all the disdain.
There's more than enough solo enabling content as it is, I'd rather we do not slash whatever few genuinely designed for party play content there is.
No matter the reason.

judedaryl

MadMonkey same sentiment as monkey, i'd want to "official" experience to remain the same, it's a hassle for me too but i dont want to take it away from others.

coffee

I agree with you Pipo, but what is there in this instance that makes players want the loots that drop there? Do you happen to use Vivatus weapons? If you want, I can send you a whole box with weapons and loot from this instance in your rodex. This instance is old. We are not talking about a current instance with meta gears.

Pipo

jinbou Re-read my post again

Akin

I won't attack a suggestion for no reason or rant over someone's reply excessively just because I disagree with it. Since it's not my suggestion to begin with and it has a good reasoning behind. But tbh the 2 character requirement is barely an inconvenience. Even for me who can't even open more than 3 clients (2 up till the recent client update that somehow lowers the cpu usage for some reason), I personally feel like it's a unique challenge of the instance that I had to overcome and learned how to overcome it out of necessity. I know of some players who made just a dozen mains and alts just to do this instance. So neutral on this. But I prefer it stays this way.

jinbou

Michama

I'm actually okay with bringing another char in, the problem for me is that the alt char also needs to go to the hassle of walking through those annoying ghosts that knocks 50% hp out of you if you touch it and go through the gradual gravity thingy on the next room. So i guess +1?

Griztel

+1 I mean bring an alt just to "open" its kinda meme , since duo clients its ok we can just do this change for QoL.