Improve the Refine/Grading system

VanyrMaelstrom

Improve the refinement / grading systems, I dont know how, but spending almost a billion zeny on every piece of gear that needs grading is so cancerous, and incredibly demotivating.

Leaf

Grading system has been improvised as per official. At least we have option to grade at lower refine rate.

Meer

I think the Grading itself is fine, the quite really tilting experience that almost got me quit was the +0 -> +10 Refinement part. Having 2 times in a row close to 1500x Ores Spent

My personal opinion on this is just 1000x Ores should be the cap per cycle and the person who is currently refining should get the +10 version out of pity. (Seeing how Ragnarok Online have 0 Pity System)

Assuming someone wants Grade A gears = 4 cycles of refining to +10
6000x Ores, probably there are way faster way to farm elunium
but I roughly farm 500 Elu / 30min = 6h of only farming Elu in Istana Cave
that is only for single gear.

Going by the numbers make absolutely no sense as well, like I think 1000x Ores are too grindy for "High Rate Server"
as we know our server is rated in RMS, but I'm quite sure there will always be people who think
"Our refining rate are actually already on Enriched Ore chance, 3000x Ores are grindy for me, anything below are fine"

We will pretty much never be able to determine logically if there are no clear rules on how to determine if something is too grindy.

Roofie

Don't just spam the refinement button though... For comparison, I was able to make a weapon from +10 [NG] to +11 [C] using <600 ores yesterday. Worst I had here was ₆₀₀ ores in just 1 grade - and that's by mindlessly spamming the refinement. Superstition as it may be, the rituals done by the RO players of old still works 🙂 And not only in RO, but in other games as well - refinement ritual exists! =))

My point is, the refinement system is fine as it is. It's already enhanced from its previous state. Also, Refiner Leona <3

Hanniel

As much as people are quick to disregard this but I think it's a great idea to move forward. More grinding towards a "sure" goal is better than keep grinding to have a little chance. not sure how to be implemented to be honest, a pity bar that fills up as you failed and once it reach 100% you get it 100% rate I think ? The rate it fills could be 10 tries, 20 tries or even more depends on how much does we considered needs to be pity

Roofie That is not even a logical response man. I have runs that took 12 tries exactly to 12 and others that took 1k to +10. It's random, freaking ritual my gosh

VanyrMaelstrom

Thinking about this suggest. I agree with Meer that Grading is fine.

I think increasing the special ore rates would be a solution, for example Enriched Etherium/Enriched Etherdeocon at +9 to +10 gives us a 25% chance (compared to 18% base ores). This chance is not very impactful, to the point its not really worth using these ores unless you can donate, or have extra laying around from daily rewards.

I think Increasing the chance to 30% at least at +9 to +10 would make a large difference, however this solution also hurts when Muh Coins feel hard to farm. I can get around 200-300 a day from main office boards (using 3 accounts at the same time, this take roughly an hour), but not all players can use that advantage of multiple accounts. On average I get about 50 from events per day, and 10 Guaranteed from Daily Login. The only other available coins are from Riddler, which is at least 75 coins per day, for those that do it.

Using 1 account (no alts) you can make 60-100 + 50 + 10 + 75 Coins per day. 195-235, which is 4/5 days for a box, 1 hour everyday of farming for coins, and anywhere from 15-45 minutes of Riddler everyday depending on your RNG.

tldr: Gimme more Muh Coins, and increase the +9 to +10 refine with special ores from 25% to 30%

Set_R

Another option is making the Enriched Ores (Elunium/Oridexon) turn rate to be more than 1x.

So like, 1 Enriched Elunium makea 3 to 5 Enriched Etherium. Since level 2/5 refine ores arr a lot more uses than their older counterparts.

Also swaping that 25% for 30% would be helpfull.

At this moment, I feel like +9ing and +10ing should be done with it's BSB option from what I refined already.

Pipo

This is the official refine and the interest on it is really high and good. I recently refine Beelzebub's crown, spent 1000 elu and 7 Enriched + 36 BsB on them, I spent many times less on my other stuff. It's a grind game. May the force be with us. No point in changing something that works well.